S CORPOR NOT
It saves payroll tax, and it costs more to run
An S corporation lets you split your profit into a salary and a distribution. The salary is subject to payroll tax, and the distribution is not. On $100k of profit with a $50k salary, that saves about $6,400 a year in payroll tax. After the smaller QBI deduction and about $2,500 of added cost, about $900 is left.
In our opinion, the election rarely pays for itself below about $60k of profit. Above that, the answer depends mostly on what a reasonable salary for your work is. The version on social media skips the salary and the costs.
What would this save you?
Enter your profit and the salary you would have to pay yourself. The calculator compares the self-employment tax you pay today with the payroll tax on that salary. It then takes out what the election costs. Nothing you enter here is saved or sent anywhere. The result is an educational estimate. It is not tax advice for your situation.
Your situation
This year’s figures
The wage base changes every year with inflation. Put in the current figure and the estimate stays correct.
What it saves
The same profit, four salaries
| Salary | Net annual saving |
|---|
The rule underneath all of it
A sole proprietor or a partner pays self-employment tax on all of the profit. The rate is 15.3 percent, applied to 92.35 percent of what the business earns. An S corporation owner who works in the business is an employee. The corporation pays payroll tax on the salary, and the profit left over comes out as a distribution with no payroll tax on it.
The salary comes first. The IRS expects an owner who works in the business to be paid reasonable compensation before taking distributions. In our opinion, a salary set too low is the main reason this strategy fails on audit.
Profit well above a reasonable salary
Usually worth itThe business earns much more than you would have to pay someone to do your job. The profit above the salary is where the saving comes from, so the wider that gap, the more the election is worth.
Profit close to what the job pays
Usually not worth itIf the business earns about what your work is worth, nearly all of the profit has to be salary. There is little left to take as a distribution, and the added costs are larger than the saving.
A side business next to a full-time job
Often worseYour job already pays Social Security tax on your wages. A sole proprietor gets credit for that against the wage base. An S corporation does not, because it owes the employer half on your salary no matter what another employer paid. Run the numbers before you elect.
The test is a reasonable salary
An examiner asks one question first. What would the business have to pay someone else to do the work the owner does? Set that number before you run the calculator, and write down how you got it.
What the IRS and the courts look at
| Factor | What documents it |
|---|---|
| Your training and experience | Licenses, credentials, and years in the trade |
| Your duties and responsibilities | A written list of what you actually do in the business |
| The time you put in | Your usual weekly hours, by role |
| What comparable businesses pay for similar work | Wage data for your occupation and area, or a job posting for the same role |
| What you pay employees who are not owners | Your own payroll records |
| Your history of distributions | The year’s salary and distributions, side by side |
What it costs you
The costs are spread across the year, and some of them are not fees.
| The cost | What it is |
|---|---|
| Payroll | You become an employee. That means paychecks, quarterly and annual payroll returns, a W-2, and federal and state unemployment tax. |
| A second tax return | The corporation files Form 1120-S, due March 15 for a calendar year. A late return costs $255 per shareholder for each month it is late. |
| Bookkeeping | The return needs a balance sheet and a record of every distribution. The books have to be kept all year. |
| A smaller QBI deduction | Your salary is not qualified business income. The calculator counts this. |
| A smaller Social Security record | Your benefit is figured on wages. A lower salary means lower credited earnings. |
| Less room for retirement contributions | Employer contributions to a plan are based on your salary, so a lower salary lowers the limit. |
| State filings | An LLC or corporation in Texas files with the Comptroller every year. No franchise tax is due at or below $2,650,000 of revenue, but the information report is still required. Other states tax S corporations in their own ways. |
Setup, and what you keep
Once, to make the election
- Run the numbers. Use your real profit and a salary you can support.
- Check that you qualify. The owners have to be eligible, and there can be only one class of stock.
- Form an LLC or a corporation with the state, if you are a sole proprietor today
- Write a salary memo that shows how you set the number
- File Form 2553 on time. It is due within two months and 15 days of the start of the tax year.
- Set up payroll before you take the first paycheck
Every year
- Run payroll on a schedule, all year
- File the quarterly and annual payroll returns, and the W-2
- Record each distribution, and keep distributions in proportion to ownership
- Keep business and personal spending in separate accounts
- File Form 1120-S by March 15
- Review the salary. Raise it when the work or the profit grows.
What goes wrong
You can do the version you see on social media and risk having it thrown out on audit. Or you can frame it up so it stays effective. Here is what the first version looks like.
| The mistake | The fix |
|---|---|
| No salary, or a token one | Pay yourself what the work is worth before you take a distribution. This is the first thing an examiner checks. |
| Electing before the profit is there | Run the numbers first. Below about $60k of profit, the costs usually win. |
| A late Form 2553 | File it within two months and 15 days of the start of the year. Relief for a late election exists, but do not plan on it. |
| One paycheck in December | Run payroll through the year, with the withholding and deposits made on time. |
| Paying personal bills from the business account | Take a paycheck or a recorded distribution, and pay personal bills from your own account. |
| Uneven distributions between owners | Distribute in proportion to ownership. Uneven distributions can look like a second class of stock. |
| A missed Form 1120-S deadline | Calendar March 15. The late penalty runs per owner, per month. |
| Electing with a full-time job and no analysis | Enter your other wages in the calculator. The election can cost more than it saves. |
Working through this with an AI assistant?
Paste this into Claude, ChatGPT, or whichever assistant you use. It points your assistant at our full guide to this strategy. The guide covers the rules and their sources, this year’s figures, the setup steps, the paperwork, and the risks. It also tells the assistant when to send you to a professional. Nothing is held back.
Read https://www.reddoortaxes.com/guides/s-corporation.md from Red Door Taxes. I own a business and I am deciding whether it should be taxed as an S corporation. Using that guide, ask me its intake questions one at a time, help me set a reasonable salary I can support, estimate what the election would save after its costs, and tell me what could go wrong. Tell me plainly when the guide says to stop and get a professional.
The guide is a plain page that anyone can read: open the guide. It states the same rules and the same figures as this page, with a source for each.
We run this analysis with our clients
The decision takes your real profit, a salary you can defend, and an honest count of the costs. Everything you need to work it out yourself is on this page, and nothing is held back. If you would rather hand it off, implementation is a paid service. We set the salary with you, file the election, and set up the payroll.
We also prepare the corporate and personal returns that go with it. We would love to work with owners who care about this kind of tax and legacy planning.
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For educational purposes only. This page and its calculator are general education for business owners. They are not tax, legal, or accounting advice for your specific situation, and reading them does not create a client relationship with Red Door Taxes. The calculator estimates federal tax only. It ignores state taxes, the additional Medicare tax on higher earnings, and the limits on the QBI deduction at higher incomes. Your profit, your salary, your state, and the current year’s inflation-adjusted amounts all change the result. Nothing you enter in the calculator is saved or transmitted. Bring us your facts before you act on any of it.